Sheriff Dupnik’s criticism of political ‘vitriol’ resonates with public – Washington Post


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Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik, who is overseeing the investigation of Saturday’s mass shooting that critically wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D), became an overnight sensation with his remarks that the “vitriol” in today’s political discourse contributed to the incident and that Arizona has become “a mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”

Dupnik’s name was a top search term on Twitter Saturday night, with many of the tweets thanking him for his candor, and overnight, a Facebook page titled “Clarence Dupnik is my Hero” sprung up.

In a news conference Saturday evening, Dupnik condemned the “atmosphere of hatred and bigotry” that he said has gripped the nation and suggested that the 22-year-old suspect being held in the shooting was mentally ill and therefore more susceptible to overheated messages in the media.

“There’s reason to believe that this individual may have a mental issue. And I think people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol,” he said during his televised remarks. “People tend to pooh-pooh this business about all the vitriol we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences.”

His remarks especially resonated with liberals, who even before the name of the suspect was released suggested that the shooter may have had been incited by the tea party. There is no indication that the suspect, Jared Lee Lougner, identified with the tea party or was politically conservative. During the campaign, liberal pundits and politicians asserted that the sometimes militant language some conservative politicians used could incite violence.

MSNBC talk show host Keith Olbermann, who acknowledged and apologized for his role in the acrimonious political climate, praised Dupnik’s “extraordinary” comments at the close of his show on Saturday. Dupnik’s remarks drew criticism from conservatives.

“We have no idea at this point the motivation of this murderer’s act. Yet Dupnik took his moment in the spotlight to drive a political wedge into the event,” local conservative radio host Jon Justice said in an e-mail to the Tucson Weekly. “They were reckless and dangerous statements made by someone who should have known better. He should have been using his time to help bring the community together.”

Dupnik, 74, a Democrat who has served as Pima County sheriff since 1980, is known for his colorful and often bluntly partisan commentary. Last year, he refused to enforce Arizona’s aggressive new law targeting illegal immigrants, calling it “stupid” and “racist.” He coined the phrase “political fornickaboobery,” to describe the motives he felt were behind the crackdown.

He has called the tea party “bigots,” and on Saturday, he had similar words about Arizona’s reputation. “The anger the hatred the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous, and unfortunately I think Arizona has become sort of the capital,” he said. “We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”

Yet Dupnik has also argued that the state should not be obligated to educate illegal immigrant children, and a group of fellow Democratic officials in 2009 asked him to apologize after he said 40 percent of students at a particular school district were illegally in the country. He refused.

His remarks on Saturday further ingratiated him with liberals who have often taken issue with another Arizona sheriff – Maricopa County’s Joe Arpaio, a Republican and frequent speaker at tea party events who has clashed with federal authorities over his aggressive tactics in dealing with illegal immigrants.

Pima is a border county of nearly 1 million that includes Tucson, a Democratic-leaning city, and overlaps with the 8th congressional district, which Giffords represents. According to the Pima County sheriff’s office web site, Dupnik is a 50-year veteran in law enforcement, having first served in the Tucson Police Department in 1958.


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Wow what biased reporting from the Washington Post. The only people I have seen blame this on conservatives are lefties(like Dupnik). Wherever those sites praising Dupnik came from they are no doubt made by leftists. Just go look at some of the hateful comments and blogs from over the weekend all over the internet coming from liberals, from the Huffington Post to some of the comments on here. Keith Olbermann and the liberal talking heads today are already pinning this on conservatives. This is the kind of rhetroric that has this nation divided. Not to mention Obama and the last President who has worked overtime to divide the nation with their extremist policies. No one knows what political affiliation this shooter was and people should reserve judgement until after the facts are in. Even then, NO ONE FORCED HIM TO PULL THE TRIGGER!!!!

Posted by: bjoh249 | January 10, 2011 5:35 PM
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Wow what biased reporting from the Washington Post. The only people I have seen blame this on conservatives are lefties(like Dupnik). Wherever those sites praising Dupnik came from they are no doubt made by leftists. Just go look at some of the hateful comments and blogs from over the weekend all over the internet coming from liberals, from the Huffington Post to some of the comments on here. Keith Olbermann and the liberal talking heads today are already pinning this on conservatives. This is the kind of rhetroric that has this nation divided. Not to mention Obama and the last President who has worked overtime to divide the nation with their extremist policies. No one knows what political affiliation this shooter was and people should reserve judgement until after the facts are in. Even then, NO ONE FORCED HIM TO PULL THE TRIGGER!!!!

Posted by: bjoh249 | January 10, 2011 5:35 PM
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Gotta love Sheriff Dupnik for pointing out how these influences poison our society. But while considering these influences, we must include this countries’general acceptance and promotion of violence as a means to an end.

A stunning hypocrisy occurs to me while listening to Obama and other public figures condemn this horrific event. These very same “leaders” and the American public in general are quite ok with our military flailing away around the world in unnescessry wars causing the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents. And then we wonder why some of our citizens think that violence is an acceptable solution to perceived threats.

Posted by: stevedumford | January 10, 2011 4:52 PM
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Sheriff Dupnik has admitted in a taped interview that he HAS NO PROOF AT ALL that the shooter listened, watched, or was influenced in anyway by talk radio ar telivision pundits. He was basically injecting his own poltical views into this story…. Basically talking out of his …..

Posted by: Jmac5280 | January 10, 2011 3:20 PM
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this shooting took place in sheriff dubnik`s county,and he knew this gunmann had a history,doesn`t say much for his law enforcement.

Posted by: SISSD1 | January 10, 2011 9:20 AM
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What sort of journalism is this? It certainly isn’t reporting–the sheriff did not mention the Tea Party. And if it is opinion, it certainly isn’t balanced. I can’t believe that this young woman actually has an advanced degree in journalism. What is happening to the WAPO? Why does the WAPO find it necessary to smear this sheriff? There has been little reference to the Tea Party in any of the coverage I followed. The discussion has centered around inflammatory rhetoric and Sarah Palin’s hit list. Her journalism is typical of the sort of writing that I see in the comments section and her article isn’t worthy of association with a paper with the status and reputation of the WAPO. Talk about dumbing down.

Posted by: msu73 | January 10, 2011 9:11 AM
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From CBS news: “In a YouTube video, which features text listed as his “final thoughts,” Loughner urges people to “read the United States of America’s Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws.”"

Despite all the breathless denials here, what other group do we know that spouts the exact same kind of semi-coherent rhetoric?

Posted by: orrg1 | January 10, 2011 8:08 AM
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** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “I want you to argue with them and get in their face!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose a-s-s to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

A former classmate, Caitie Parker — who has called the suspect “left wing” and “a pothead” — tweeted that after that event, Loughner said he thought Giffords was “stupid” and “unintelligent.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/psycho_stalked_pol_for_years_HBSCJ3HN9Iq0eykMUWjeSL

Posted by: fury60 | January 10, 2011 3:30 AM
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While I have enjoyed reading the posts which seem to relish mudslinging at other commenters, I would like to mention that Sheriff Dupnik did not name anyone in his comments but rather seemed to plead with all parties to tone down the nasty, vitriolic speech. Why do you think he was referring to the tea party or the far right?…he didn’t say anything about the tparty.

Posted by: marlenepitts | January 10, 2011 3:22 AM
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I’m tired of being called a racist and a bigot because I oppose the radical and destructive policies of Barrack Obama, and the Professional Left. Sheriff Dupnik of Pinal County used the 15-minutes of fame accorded him by a national tragedy, to continue the liberal smear campaign which has been in full force, ever since those of us who voted for Barrack Obama, fully understood the fraudulent campaign he used to get elected:

“The anger the hatred the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous, and unfortunately I think Arizona has become sort of the capital,” he said. “We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”

I agree that the hatred and bigotry that goes on in this country is outrageous. The problem is, the vast majority of it is coming from the Democratic party and the Left. One need look no further than on-line forums like this one, where liberals routinely characterize those who oppose them as “ignorant”, “stupid”, “extremist”, “racists”, and of course the umbrella term: “bigots”. When it comes to arguing the issues on the merits, they have very little to say, since the costs of propping up their unsustainable ideology of entitlement and state-sponsored altruism has pushed this country to the brink of economic disaster.

FYI, Sheriff Dupnik, here’s the Wikipedia definition of “bigotry”:

“A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.”

If you want to put a stop to it, you may start with your next big press-conference: by doing your job, sticking to the facts, and sparing us your sanctimonious rants directed at those of us who voted for change, and got exponentially more of the same corrupt, business as usual in Washington.

Posted by: thomas777 | January 10, 2011 12:27 AM
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Finally somebody in the news who has the guts to call a violent, bigotted spade a violent bigotted spade.

I saw Brian Williams actually try to get Dupnik backpeddle tonight – and he refused. Good for him and shame on Brian Williams.

The media have blood on their hands just like Sarah Palin does because of their nonstop glorification of her.

Posted by: solsticebelle | January 9, 2011 10:07 PM
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Dupnik is every thing Arpio is not. a liberal pinhead who thinks he above the law he was sworn to uphold. Shame on him.

Posted by: carlbatey | January 9, 2011 9:54 PM
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The following is an article copied verbatin from Fox News website just a few minutes ago:

Palin Says ‘Reload’ is Call For Political Activism

Published April 09, 2010
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NEW ORLEANS — Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin says her “Don’t retreat — reload” slogan is a call for political activism, not violence.

Addressing fellow conservatives at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference, Palin accused the media of twisting her words and tarnishing the reputation of the tea party movement.

She told Republicans on Friday, “Don’t retreat — reload, and that’s not a call for violence.”

Palin noted that critics have questioned why she’d use such language while some Democratic lawmakers face threats of violence over their support of health care overhaul legislation.

Palin added, “No one is calling for such a thing.”

Posted by: nansev | January 9, 2011 9:41 PM
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arnnmann wrote: Unfortunately you’re being sarcastic and we are telling the truth. The man is worthless and if he did half the job as president that he does as politician the US would be a great deal safer. You ever have an elected official who does a really good job as a spokesman but can’t find his butt with both hands when it comes to competency to do his job? Well that’s George Bush and while he’s doing great at PR he sucks as a president. As the towers came down George gives great readings of children’s books. I hope you feel safer because we don’t.
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WTH does George Bush have to do with this thread? Another liberal who can’t resist finding another method to bash George Bush. I’m not a George Bush fan. I voted for Al Gore against George Bush. I also voted for Obama in 2008 crossing over against McCain who is from my own state because of Palin. None of which means crap about this idgit Clarence Dupnick. We have a POTUS who refuses to secure our border and plays politics with our lives. We have a representative who votes against her district on every vote for two years. We have a local sheriff who publicly states he won’t uphold laws. We have a Tucson police chief saying the same thing. Notice the trend and wonder why people here are frustrated? We have violent crime escalating daily. Murders records hit record highs last year. In fact we passed the record back in November. Every murder in December set a new record. Dupnick couldn’t find a drug bust if it drove up to DPS HQ and slapped him. All the time while counties, BP, and ICE around us are breaking records for drug seizures. Yeah for Clarence Dupnick the local Barney Fife of AZ. Ease up on that vitriol you might cost the old coot his nap time.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 9, 2011 8:41 PM
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The media and democrats want us to focus on the nation’s “caustic political climate” after the tragedy yesterday. Maybe they should start with President Obama.
He may be the worst offender.

** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

If the media really wants to improve the “caustic political climate” they may want to start at the White House.

Posted by: Jen06 | January 9, 2011 8:11 PM
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Let me see if I got this right. Sheriff Dupnik’s statement that reckless, inflammatory speech is out of control, is itself reckless inflammatory. Meanwhile, Sarah Palin putting crosshairs over political opponents and telling people to “reload” is perfectly reasonable. Am I thinking like a conservative Republican yet?

Posted by: skylights | January 9, 2011 8:02 PM
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“however, we can do so without vitriol which leads to the type of behavior by an individual who took violence into his own hands.”

GUESS y’all forgot ALL of YOURS with:
Bill Sparkman: The Kentucky state police announced that the death of Bill Sparkman was an elaborate suicide made to look like a murder so that Sparkman’s son could collect on his insurance policy.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/24/national/main5762511.shtml

Amy Bishop: By all accounts, Bishop was extremely liberal and a huge Obama fan (to the point of being described by someone who knew her as being obsessed with Obama).

http://trueslant.com/jonathancuriel/2010/02/17/race-in-america-does-racism-explain-the-%E2%80%98tenure-shooting%E2%80%99-and-tea-party-movement/

The IRS Plane Crasher: Think Progress claimed and ran the following headline related to the attack by Joe Stack who crashed a small plane into a building housing an IRS office.

Scott Brown Yawns At Plane Attack On IRS Building: ‘No One Likes Paying Taxes’
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/18/scott-brown-terrorism-yawn/

The TP story pushed the meme to your kind that Brown expressed no concern about the plane attack and attributed the attack to people not liking to pay taxes:

“Newly-minted Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) appeared on Fox’s Neil Cavuto and showed none of the outrage and concern about terrorism that he exuded during his Senate election campaign. Asked for his reaction, Brown said he felt for the families, but quickly shrugged off the attack and transitioned to say that “people are frustrated” and “no one likes paying taxes.”

The Cabbie Stabbing: The left-wing blogosphere continually ranted that right-wing incitement related to the Corboda Mosque and Islamic Center incited Engright to stab a Muslim cab driver, after questioning the driver as to his faith.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/AntiMuslim_attacker_works_at_proPark51_group.html

•Think Progress: “The first casualty of the “Ground Zero mosque.””
•Michael Tomasky: “Anyone surprised that a Muslim cab driver was stabbed in New York? If you are surprised, you’ve been sleepwalking the last two weeks.”
•Juan Cole: “Newt Gingrich and Rick Lazio may as well have kept Enwright in their basements in chains and whipped him into a frenzy as to spew their hatred on the airwaves.”
•Gawker: “”Ground Zero mosque” mania reaches exciting new heights.”
•Crooks and Liars: “GOP, What Have Your Wrought?”
•New York Magazine: “But with the tension so high right now on the issue of tolerance of Muslims, the correlation between the two is troubling enough.”
•Little Green Footballs: “With the bigotry and hatred continuously pouring out of Fox News, right wing websites, and talk radio, it was only a matter of time.”
•Bob Cesca: “Claiming to be a Muslim that close to Ground Zero is a stab in the heart to whatever.”
•TPM Livewire: “Okay so: Anyone else sadly not surprised at a Muslim hate crime in New York City these days?”

Posted by: Qster | January 9, 2011 7:51 PM
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“Sheriff” Dupnik is a twit and no more than a tool for progressives who desperately need to politicize this tragedy. Had the good sheriff been doing his job, the nutcase shooter would not have been attending this rally armed with a Glock 19 and this man will NOT survive the next election. (and I use the word “survive” metaphorically for anyone wondering)

Posted by: Lloyd227 | January 9, 2011 7:33 PM
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Ive been afraid for sometime that something ugly was going to happen in Arizona. Individuals in that state have displayed absolute ugliness and hatred and have been encouraged by many politicians for their own motives. The sheriff is right, the tone and tenure of political discourse in our country has become vulgar, common and coarse. When a congressmen shouts out at a president while he is making a speech to the nation and gets lauded for it as well as hundreds of thousand of dollars in donations, what can we expect. We need to pause and evaluate our behavior as a nation. Many of us disagree politically, however, we can do so without vitriol which leads to the type of behavior by an individual who took violence into his own hands.

Posted by: Listening2 | January 9, 2011 7:31 PM
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Ive been afraid for sometime that something ugly was going to happen in Arizona. Individuals in that state have displayed absolute ugliness and hatred and have been encouraged by many politicians for their own motives. The sheriff is right, the tone and tenure of political discourse in our country has become vulgar, common and coarse. When a congressmen shouts out at a president while he is making a speech to the nation and gets lauded for it as well as hundreds of thousand of dollars in donations, what can we expect. We need to pause and evaluate our behavior as a nation. Many of us disagree politically, however, we can do so without vitriol which leads to the type of behavior by an individual who took violence into his own hands.

Posted by: Listening2 | January 9, 2011 7:31 PM
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Ive been afraid for sometime that something ugly was going to happen in Arizona. Individuals in that state have displayed absolute ugliness and hatred and have been encouraged by many politicians for their own motives. The sheriff is right, the tone and tenure of political discourse in our country has become vulgar, common and coarse. When a congressmen shouts out at a president while he is making a speech to the nation and gets lauded for it as well as hundreds of thousand of dollars in donations, what can we expect. We need to pause and evaluate our behavior as a nation. Many of us disagree politically, however, we can do so without vitriol which leads to the type of behavior by an individual who took violence into his own hands.

Posted by: Listening2 | January 9, 2011 7:30 PM
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Ive been afraid for sometime that something ugly was going to happen in Arizona. Individuals in that state have displayed absolute ugliness and hatred and have been encouraged by many politicians for their own motives. The sheriff is right, the tone and tenure of political discourse in our country has become vulgar, common and coarse. When a congressmen shouts out at a president while he is making a speech to the nation and gets lauded for it as well as hundreds of thousand of dollars in donations, what can we expect. We need to pause and evaluate our behavior as a nation. Many of us disagree politically, however, we can do so without vitriol which leads to the type of behavior by an individual who took violence into his own hands.

Posted by: Listening2 | January 9, 2011 7:30 PM
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This article was written before it was disclosed that Master Jared was tied to a prominent white supremacist, anti-semitic group and that his assassination effort was carefully planned and likely linked to his racist/antisemitic agenda. Many believe it is unlikely he acted alone and there is no evidence his actions were the product of mental illness. The conclusion of most? Unhinged Bagger Madness.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 9, 2011 7:09 PM
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It’s just been reported that the “suspected accomplice” was the cab driver who took the shooter to the Safeway store. The cabbie went into the store because the shooter didn’t have change.

I’m sure this news is upsetting to “Clarence the Clown,” who was hoping to tie the shootings to the Tea Party.

Posted by: brianc2221 | January 9, 2011 6:55 PM
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It’s just been reported that the “suspected accomplice” was the cab driver who took the shooter to the Safeway store. The cabbie went into the store because the shooter didn’t have change.

I’m sure this news is upsetting to “Clarence the Clown,” who was hoping to tie the shootings to the Tea Party.

Posted by: brianc2221 | January 9, 2011 6:55 PM
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Sheriff Dupnik, thank you for speaking out against these racist, anti-semitic, zenophobic teabagging domestic terrorists who created the toxic environment that enabled this tragedy. Courage.

The American People

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 9, 2011 6:48 PM
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Sheriff Dupnik needs to go. There is NO reason for him to interject commentary at this time. His bashing of Arizona is cause to dismiss him.

Posted by: Barb_AZ | January 9, 2011 6:42 PM
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Unfortunately you’re being sarcastic and we are telling the truth. The man is worthless and if he did half the job as president that he does as politician the US would be a great deal safer. You ever have an elected official who does a really good job as a spokesman but can’t find his butt with both hands when it comes to competency to do his job? Well that’s George Bush and while he’s doing great at PR he sucks as a president. As the towers came down George was giving a reading of a children’s book. I hope you feel safer because we don’t.

Posted by: arnnmann | January 9, 2011 6:39 PM
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Unfortunately you’re being sarcastic and we are telling the truth. The man is worthless and if he did half the job as president that he does as politician the US would be a great deal safer. You ever have an elected official who does a really good job as a spokesman but can’t find his butt with both hands when it comes to competency to do his job? Well that’s George Bush and while he’s doing great at PR he sucks as a president. As the towers came down George gives great readings of children’s books. I hope you feel safer because we don’t.

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steve4: “Dupnik is a total partisan hack, who will use any excuse to push his agenda.”
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Unfortunately your being sarcastic and we are telling the truth. The man is worthless and if he did half the job as law enforcement that he does as politician Pima county would be a great deal safer. You ever have an elected official who does a really good job as a spokesman but can’t find his butt with both hands when it comes to competency to do his job? Well that’s Clarence Dupnick and while he’s doing great at PR he sucks as a sheriff. As our crime goes up Clarence gives great news conferences. I hope you feel safer because we don’t.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 9, 2011 5:57 PM
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They didn’t give Dupnik the nickname “Clarence the Clown” for nothing.

Posted by: brianc2221 | January 9, 2011 5:49 PM
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steve4:
“Dupnik is a total partisan hack, who will use any excuse to push his agenda.”

Congratulations. This is exactly the attitude he was talking about.

Posted by: presto668 | January 9, 2011 5:35 PM
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Dupnik failed.

Posted by: Kansasgirl | January 9, 2011 5:33 PM
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vaconservative, you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts:

CS Monitor reports that Master Jared has been linked to American Renaissance, a white supremacist group which DHS says promotes views that are “anti-government, anti-immigration, anti-ZOG [Zionist Occupational Government], anti-Semitic.” CSM notes that both Giffords and Mr. Zimmerman are Jewish.

Master Jared, it appears, was a poster boy for Tea Bagger hate and bigotry. Sad.

Case closed.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 9, 2011 5:32 PM
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Sheriff Dupnick is a much better politician than he ever was a law enforcement official. Dupnick isn’t a voice of reason and if you lived in Tucson you would know that. His comments around SB1070 inflamed the residents. When you have a sheriff publicly posting that he and his men would not enforce the law then maybe someone in law enforcement can explain to you what oath of office means.

If you want to see an example of a great sheriff look no further than Pinal County sheriff Paul Babeu. Now there is a man who is both a good politician AND a good law enforcement official. We will be glad to trade Dupnick to anyone who will take him.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | January 9, 2011 5:28 PM
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Way to go, Dupey.

Posted by: phvr38 | January 9, 2011 5:20 PM
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Dupnik did nothing to protect the community form this known threat.

The shooter was kicked out the community college for making death threats.

Posted by: KSoze | January 9, 2011 5:09 PM
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Nice try, Vaconservative. But you’re wrong.

Master Jared reportedly is connected with a prominent white supremacist group. It is likely he had at least one accomplice in the assassination attempt. No one has documented any history of mental illness for Master Jared so far.

Maybe the media will now call out the baggers as the Perfect Storm of organized hate and domestic terrorism that folks like Sheriff Dupnik know them to be.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 9, 2011 5:03 PM
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This is a terrible, horrific tragedy and I urge all Americans to get in the face of any leftist goon who tries to connect this to the right.

We will not have free speech abridged, we will not tolerate this hate machine to attack us over one of theirs.

It is obvious this is going to take a on a life of its own – and the obama machine is not going to let this crisis go to waste.

The fault needs to be placed where it belongs and not just thrown against the wall to see if it sticks for cheap political points.

Obama just got spanked in November – he is going to play this up all its worth. He needs to challenged on this at every step. Obama and the leftists need to answer for their vicious hate speech.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 9, 2011 4:37 PM
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Sheriff Dipstick is big into local Democrat politics and has exceeded his budget for years.

This guy has an agenda.

Posted by: grunk | January 9, 2011 4:29 PM
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Dupnik is a total partisan hack, who will use any excuse to push his agenda. I live in Tucson, the cops hate this guy for the nutty stuff he pulls. The city is overrun with criminals, with drug dealing leading the way. We should be focusing on the health of the wounded and concern for the family of the victims.

Posted by: steve4 | January 9, 2011 4:25 PM
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Man, a lot of people missing the point. Not everything has to be an attack. VirginiaConservative for example, just chill out and think about making a reasonable point rather than just mounting your next attack.

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Nothing I said was an attack – unless you consider the truth an attack.

The point is this: A lunatic with leftist leanings just murdered some very good and innocent people.

Before the blood had even stopped flowing, the left started dancing in it, screeching at full volume at how this was a tea party attack.

Once it became clear this puke was no tea partyer, then the narrative switched to how he was manipulated by right wing media.

This is a very sick and twisted situation and the people making the false and indefensible accusations are the sickest among us.

Want to talk about inflammatory hate speech? Great, lets start with our current president, his cabinet, the leftists in the senate (remember Durbin, Murtha and Kerry accusing our troops of being murderers and keepers of Gulags? Congressional lunatics like Grayson.

Lets them move on to disgustingly vicious sites like kos and huffpo.

You include all this – then you can talk about the right with a little moral standing.

Until then, you are just another goof, baying at the moon.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 9, 2011 4:25 PM
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This shooter had videos that are really rambling about conscious dreaming and making new currency for U.S. He also stated something about if he had his civil rights the shooting would not have occurred from what I have read so far.

Also, a woman who met him in the past described him as more left liberal.

Now, for critical thinking part. For, two years Democrats ran roughshod over Republicans in the Congress Houses and there were no shooting. At a time the Republicans are in the majority there is suddenly a devastating shooting.

The question of who will take responsibility for it could be medications, the liberals or the conservatives because there has been acrimony on both sides.

Posted by: diamlake2009 | January 9, 2011 4:17 PM
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Hooray for Sheriff Dupnik.

The Sheriff is doing what you, the media, should have done a long time ago: call out the Tea Baggers as a dangerous racist, zenophobic, antisemitic hate movement. He’s at Ground Zero so he knows that the media narrative that the baggers are just tax protesters is totally bogus.

Laughably, the media continues to push the talking point that this attempted assassination was committed by an apolitical “lone nut.” Not so. Turns out Jared probably had ties to a prominent white supremacist; he probably had at least one accomplice; and there is no evidence he was “a nut.”

And why is the media shying away from confronting Palin aggressively about her listing Giffords (at No. 4) on her famous gun-crosshairs hit list. Giffords was one of only two sitting Members of Congress on the hit list.

Sad and tragic. Katherine Graham’s Washington Post would have been all over this.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | January 9, 2011 3:57 PM
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The Limbaugh/Beck/Hanity smear machine will be working overtime next week trying to scrub the blood from their hands.

Posted by: treefrog2 | January 9, 2011 3:54 PM
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The Limbaugh/Beck/Hanity smear machine will be working overtime next week trying to scrub the blood from their hands.
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Boy Howdy – Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity are good aren’t they? They can get leftist lunatics to do their dirty work with just a couple of well thought out words.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 9, 2011 3:53 PM
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People who actually believe that the venom spouted by Palin, Beck, Coulter, Limbaugh, and NRA extremists are not responsible for Waco and the Oklahoma Bombing are STUPID!

I remember seeing Koresch at a Houston gun show where a grown man in para-military garb was showing a video on how to convert a semi-auto 12 gauge shotgun into a belt-fed weapon!
Remember ? – Bush, SR resigned from the NRA because many of their members were sympathetic to the bombing – and also to David – self styled “Jesus” Koresch of Waco infamy).

Posted by: lufrank1 | January 9, 2011 3:51 PM
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Plaza04433, I find your posting incendiary, uncivil, and contributing to the hostile atmosphere that spawns nut jobs. I hope it doesn’t happen to me, but you never know.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | January 9, 2011 3:50 PM
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Man, a lot of people missing the point. Not everything has to be an attack. VirginiaConservative for example, just chill out and think about making a reasonable point rather than just mounting your next attack.

Posted by: themanwecalldave | January 9, 2011 3:47 PM
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The Limbaugh/Beck/Hanity smear machine will be working overtime next week trying to scrub the blood from their hands.

Posted by: treefrog2 | January 9, 2011 3:47 PM
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“we must all assume responsibility for our words” Bill Clinton

Do you suppose B Hussein had those words in mind when he said, “they bring a knife, we bring a gun” or “get in their faces” or “hand to hand combat” or calling the incoming majority “the enemy?”

These vicious, provocative words were no dog whistles – these were intended to inflame his already lunatic base.

Well, it worked.

Now its time to demonize the right, cut free speech to ribbons and get on with destroying America.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 9, 2011 3:38 PM
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Here is a “sheriff” who calls the majority of Arizonians “racists” and then has the gall to complain about overheated language! What a stupid, boated pig!

Posted by: Wigboldus | January 9, 2011 3:37 PM
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Here is a “sheriff” who calls the majority of Arizonians “racists” and then has the gall to complain about overheated language! What a stupid, boated pig!

Posted by: Wigboldus | January 9, 2011 3:37 PM
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”We are more connected than ever before, more able to spread our ideas and beliefs, our anger and fears. As we exercise the right to advocate our views, and as we animate our supporters, we must all assume responsibility for our words and actions before they enter a vast echo chamber and reach those both serious and delirious, connected and unhinged.

Civic virtue can include harsh criticism, protest, even civil disobedience. But not violence or its advocacy. That is the bright line that protects our freedom.”

Bill Clinton, April 2010

Posted by: Clear_Eye | January 9, 2011 3:32 PM
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I find listening to Dupnik’s “feelings” at his press conferences about the state of rhetoric in the country hypocritical as he is the very same law official, sworn to uphold the law, who said that he would refuse to enforce Arizona’s new immigration law because he didn’t like it and the legislators in Arizona appeared to be racists. So perhaps callings others over the top for their speech is funny coming from a man who has been over the top in his own speech and openly saying he will not enforce the laws he has sworn to uphold. I would suggest he and other democrats should think back to how many times they have called the citizens of Arizona racists and bigots because they want to secure their borders. How many ever before in history have seen such an all out assault in the court system of the US govt. against its own citizens in favor of illegals entering the country? So perhaps Mr. Dupnik should think how his own previous rhetoric may also be worthy of review before he complains about others. It is fine to ask for all rhetoric to cool down but don’t forget your own as well. Both political sides here could be assigned blame by the other but then is it the point to excuse the shooter for his actions as long as political gain can be made? This whole blame game is sick in itself and should be stopped.

Posted by: justmyvoice | January 9, 2011 3:26 PM
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Who ever thought we would have a president who would threaten (preposterous and ludicrous as the mental theater of that would be) “hand to hand combat” with the incoming majority?

Or refer to them as the enemy?

No wonder the left is on such a fevered projection mission.

You creeps have a lot of blood on your hands – and a lot to answer for.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 9, 2011 3:21 PM
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If only Obama and Democrat leaders can have half this sheriff cojones and have condemned the crime instigators.

Posted by: rappahanock | January 9, 2011 3:19 PM
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The sheriff is only resonating within the ranks of the unhinged left. One can’t help but notice the crickets chirping with regard to the vicious diatribes from the left.

Did we ever think we would have a presidential candidate who would say “they bring a knife to a fight – we bring a gun?”

And then win?

Or movies about assassinating a sitting president?

The left will not rest until their degenerate policies are coast to coast, America is humbled to a third world country and there is a dictatorship.

Anyone who criticizes this evidently is egging on violent leftists.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 9, 2011 3:15 PM
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Hazmat77 @ 2:05, might I point out the obvious to you so that you will stop trying to justify the actions of people who fill the airwaves with vitriol on a 24 x 7 basis?

1. Major Nidal is a mentally unbalanced person whose decision to commit a terrorist act was influenced by an individual who works tirelessly to turn one group of Americans (Muslim Americans) against their fellow citizens and against the government. The provacateur’s name is Anwar al Awlaki, it wasn’t Nancy Pelosi. You know this, I know this, and anyone who has spent 5 minutes reading about Nidal’s attack knows this.

2. Most Americans reject and repudiate Awlaki’s use of lies, exaggeration and vitriol to turn Muslim Americans against their fellow citizens. We do not question the idea that his actions are dangerous. One cannot believe that Awlaki’s hateful words can incite violence without recognizing that that the vitriol spewed by right wing politicians and commentators who also seek to turn Americans against Americans can also incite violence.

3. No one has suggested that all mass murders are motivate by political vitriol. The fact that the mass murderers in Columbine chose to kill their fellow students tells the casual observer that their crime was probably not politically motivated. On the other hand, the fact that Loughner chose a politician as his primary target tells the casual observer that his crime may have been motivated by hatred for political figures in general or by his hatred for a specific target.

4. After Columbine, we as a society asked how two teenagers could become so alienated that they would kill their fellow students. Many of us, as parents, took the time to talk to our children and to watch them more closely to ensure that they would not be the next perpetrators or victims of such a terrible crime. It is perfectly reasonable to do the same now and it is perfectly reasonable that we are asking ourselves what role hateful political speech played in this tragedy.

Posted by: exco | January 9, 2011 3:10 PM
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Hazmat77 @ 2:05, might I point out the obvious to you so that you will stop trying to justify the actions of people who fill the airwaves with vitriol on a 24 x 7 basis?

1. Major Nidal is a mentally unbalanced person whose decision to commit a terrorist act was influenced by an individual who works tirelessly to turn one group of Americans (Muslim Americans) against their fellow citizens and against the government. The provacateur’s name is Anwar al Awlaki, it wasn’t Nancy Pelosi. You know this, I know this, and anyone who has spent 5 minutes reading about Nidal’s attack knows this.

2. Most Americans reject and repudiate Awlaki’s use of lies, exaggeration and vitriol to turn Muslim Americans against their fellow citizens. We do not question the idea that his actions are dangerous. One cannot believe that Awlaki’s hateful words can incite violence without recognizing that that the vitriol spewed by right wing politicians and commentators who also seek to turn Americans against Americans can also incite violence.

3. No one has suggested that all mass murders are motivate by political vitriol. The fact that the mass murderers in Columbine chose to kill their fellow students tells the casual observer that their crime was probably not politically motivated. On the other hand, the fact that Loughner chose a politician as his primary target tells the casual observer that his crime may have been motivated by hatred for political figures in general or by his hatred for a specific target.

4. After Columbine, we as a society asked how two teenagers could become so alienated that they would kill their fellow students. Many of us, as parents, took the time to talk to our children and to watch them more closely to ensure that they would not be the next perpetrators or victims of such a terrible crime. It is perfectly reasonable to do the same now.

Posted by: exco | January 9, 2011 3:09 PM
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The Sheriff is speaking the truth….what I don’t understand is why the Republican Party as a whole (including their lackeys…i.e. Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly etal) are seeming not to learn how their speech affects those who are mentally ill or of feeble mind. If they still refuse to understand and change their ways, they should be held accountable by the law when the next disaster happens. So sad that it seems that they have more excuses than morals.

Posted by: gilbertpb40 | January 9, 2011 3:03 PM
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Funny, the droolers keep mewling about Fox News and the right declaring war on America – while it is the left doing the shooting.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 9, 2011 3:02 PM
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The Sheriff is speaking the truth….what I don’t understand is why the Republican Party as a whole (including their lackeys…i.e. Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly etal) are seeming not to learn how their speech affects those who are mentally ill or of feeble mind. If they still refuse to understand and change their ways, they should be held accountable by the law when the next disaster happens. So sad that it seems that they have more excuses than morals.

Posted by: gilbertpb40 | January 9, 2011 3:01 PM
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The Tea Party is probably issuing a fatwa on him at this very moment!

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | January 9, 2011 2:55 PM
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The Tea Party is probably issuing a fatwa on him at this very moment!

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | January 9, 2011 2:54 PM
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I see little difference between the Tea Party and the German Nazi party back in the 30s. If Homeland Security doesn’t do something about them soon, this country is going to end up looking like Germany in the 40s.

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | January 9, 2011 2:53 PM
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I see little difference between the Tea Party and the German Nazi party back in the 30s. If Homeland Security doesn’t do something about them soon, this country is going to end up looking like Germany in the 40s.

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | January 9, 2011 2:51 PM
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as long as the sheep keep flocking to the left and right barnyards there will always be foxes (and peacocks– if your playing that game) waiting for an easy meal. too much money in trafficing stupidity for it to stop.

Posted by: ro_pu | January 9, 2011 2:43 PM
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…but apparently it still doesn’t resonate with the WaPo, who still have “The Conservative Constitution” linked on the home page. The snarky, self-righteous stereotypes are exactly the kind that result in this “Taxi Driver” madness.

Posted by: treetopflyer | January 9, 2011 2:38 PM
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The Sherriff was right and the comments here prove it so. Also, you see the cowards (aka republicans) trying to deflect but this, with the direct aid of Fox News, is their murder. Fox has now declared war in Americans.

Posted by: mjcc1987 | January 9, 2011 2:37 PM
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The Sherriff was right and the comments here prove it so. Also, you see the cowards (aka republicans) trying to deflect but this, with the direct aid of Fox News, is their murder. Fox has now declared war in Americans.

Posted by: mjcc1987 | January 9, 2011 2:36 PM
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Is this a theater? It looks like a theater. Is it crowded? Good.
“FIRE!!”

Posted by: Capn0ok1 | January 9, 2011 2:25 PM
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Dupknik is an elected official, and as such, he has the right to make political statements. I happen to agree with him, but he ought to keep his opinions to himself since he is conducting a criminal investigation. End of story.

Posted by: dhenken1 | January 9, 2011 2:25 PM
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Is this a theater? It looks like a theater. Is it crowded? Good.
“FIRE!!”

Posted by: Capn0ok1 | January 9, 2011 2:24 PM
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I wondered why the good sheriff whet off the deep end in blaming right wing politics – of course denying the hateful, violent, vicious diatribes from the left.

Now I understand:

This from NPR, a know tea party outlet: Turns out the sheriff admitted that the killer has been in contact with local law enforcement and had made death threats.

Nice work sheriff. Some leftist goon makes death threats, you ignore them and he goes on a rampage.

So what to do? I got it – blame Sarah Palin.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | January 9, 2011 2:24 PM
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I’m horrified by the vitriol from the Right in the comments above. If the writers do not recognize the hate they’re spewing, there’s no hope for this country.

Posted by: CRinVegas | January 9, 2011 2:23 PM
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Armymom10 @ 12:51 PM, I’d be glad to help in your search for the truth. I suspect from your post that you might be more inclined to believe information from Fox News, so here’s a link for you:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/09/arizona-suspected-gunman-no-stranger-to-trouble/

For those who want the condensed version, Fox News is reporting that law enforcement suspects that Loughner may have influenced by American Renaissance, a group whose ideology is anti-government, anti-immigration, anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti-Semitic.”

If this is indeed the case, I believe that most reasonable people will agree that Loughner’s actions weren’t the result of his liberal beliefs.

With regard to item 5 on your list, might I respectfully point out that the fact that an individual has read the Communist Manifesto does not make the person an avowed Communist? By that logic, the fact that I have read all of Ayn Rand’s books and Palin’s book would mean that I am an avowed Tea Party Patriot. Fat chance of that.

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exco, did you actually READ the link, or was the heading of the story sufficient to get your juices flowing?

The point of the story is that an unnamed DHS source said there might be a link to the group. Regardless of our confidence in unnamed DHS sources…..

The POINT of the article is that there IS NO LINK. Get it? They actually interview the guy in charge of the group and do some investigative journalism. Go figure.

Go back and try reading your own reference and maybe check your attitude at the door.

Skiritae

Posted by: Skiritae | January 9, 2011 2:21 PM
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“I may be alone in this, but I thought the “Kill Bush” signs were a bit inflammatory.”

The right makes complaints, but it’s only liberals and Democrats who ever suffer the consequences of violent rhetoric. Bush took this country into a nosedive. Saying that he should be killed is extreme. But those on the right have been saying things like this for years, and in the Era of Sarah, this is commonplace and encouraged.

What’s ironic is that Giffords was talking about Sarah Palin and the crosshairs put on her being irresponsible, and that those kinds of messages have consequences, about 10 months ago with regard to HCR.

Posted by: fbutler1 | January 9, 2011 2:17 PM
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This is the first time I have heard an official say something from the heart, without worrying about getting fired and losing his pension.

Maybe he’s old enough and rich enough that he can finally say what he believes in this land of free speech.

Anyway, he has seen previous threats to Mrs. Giffords and others and he knows exactly who is influencing them.

Good for you, Sheriff1

Posted by: HookedOnThePost | January 9, 2011 2:16 PM
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Armymom10 @ 12:51 PM, I’d be glad to help in your search for the truth. I suspect from your post that you might be more inclined to believe information from Fox News, so here’s a link for you:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/09/arizona-suspected-gunman-no-stranger-to-trouble/

For those who want the condensed version, Fox News is reporting that law enforcement suspects that Loughner may have influenced by American Renaissance, a group whose ideology is anti-government, anti-immigration, anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti-Semitic.”

If this is indeed the case, I believe that most reasonable people will agree that Loughner’s actions weren’t the result of his liberal beliefs.

With regard to item 5 on your list, might I respectfully point out that the fact that an individual has read the Communist Manifesto does not make the person an avowed Communist? By that logic, the fact that I have read all of Ayn Rand’s books and Palin’s book would mean that I am an avowed Tea Party Patriot. Fat chance of that.

Posted by: exco | January 9, 2011 2:11 PM
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aartmann112004 … thanks for raising the level of discourse. hopefully we’ll all aspire to attain your level – as your nonpartisanship is simply amazing.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | January 9, 2011 2:10 PM
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aartmann112004 … thanks for raising the level of discourse. hopefully we’ll all aspire to attain your level – as your nonpartisanship is simply amazing.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | January 9, 2011 2:09 PM
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This is from a Sarah Palin rally promo:

“SATURDAY 06/12/10, 10:00 AM
Get on Target for Victory in November
Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office
Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly”

Let this day go down in history with April 14, 1865, November 22, 1963, April 4, 1968 and June 5, 1968.

Posted by: lettie1 | January 9, 2011 2:06 PM
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Sorry for the typos in my original posting
… It’s my fault but I’m going to blame BUSH43.
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Dupnik?

It’s easy to attribute such incidents to the level of vitriol in the public discourse. But much of it emanates from the left…just review the personal denigration of Bush43 made by Nancy Pelosi and other so-called leaders of the Democrat Party since Election 2000.

And none of the vitriol bears any relationship to the Intentional MURDER of 13 members of the US Military on October 5, 2009 at Ft. Hood – the most populous US military installation in the world, by Major Nidal Malik Hasan, 39 year old US Army Doctor -psychiatrist, clearly an Islamic crazed individusal.

Need I remind you adherents of political correctness of the Columbine High School shooting where 2 students killed 13 people plus themselves … without any regard to political vitriol. They were simply not ordinary kids. They were kids with serious psychological problems according to Peter Langman author of: “Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters”.

The Sheriff should stick to investigating and reporting the facts – he is not the person to be ascribing external causation, especially so soon after the incident. Let the facts DEVELOP.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | January 9, 2011 2:05 PM
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His remarks certainly resonate with me. I sure wouldn’t vote for Sarah Pallin with her Pac map which puts gunsight targets on the home states of politicians she wants to see defeated.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | January 9, 2011 2:05 PM
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Sheriff Dupnik made an irresponsible comment based on his political beliefs, with no basis in investigation or facts.

Unfortunate. Unprofessional.

He also forgot to mention violent TV, videos, music, movies, internet, and many other sources that someone like the accused killer was much more likely to be influenced by than…… Sarah Palin? Seriously?

Perhaps amidst all the time he spent online, reading the Communist Manifesto, and listening to his iPod (according to neighbors), he found time to internalize our country’s political debate.

Yeah. That’s it.

I am angered but not surprised by the Left’s immediate willingness to use this horrible event for political gain.

Skiritae

Posted by: Skiritae | January 9, 2011 2:04 PM
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The reaction of Republicans is simply disgusting. You militant scum have been ratcheting up the rhetoric for decades. You’re nothing but a cult of extremists.

Posted by: aartmann112004 | January 9, 2011 2:04 PM
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Obama is causing the nuts to come out of the woodwork with his socialist plans that foster chaos instead of law and order.

“Never let a good crisis go to waste”

Posted by: info58 | January 9, 2011 2:01 PM
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Olbermann, Limbaugh, Maddow will not stop their hate-filled rants despite this incident and the sheriff’s comments. They are all about stirring up viewers and making money for themselves and their networks.

Posted by: llrllr | January 9, 2011 2:01 PM
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Obama is causing the nuts to come out of the woodwork with his socialist plans that foster chaos instead of law and order.

“Never let a good crisis go to waste”

Posted by: info58 | January 9, 2011 2:00 PM
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It’s too bad that the only armed person at the event was the criminal. Of course they will now use this event to try to disarm those who are good law abiding people who would have intervened to save lives had they been present. This sheriff is deluding himself if he thinks it is possible to prevent crazies from getting their hands on weapons – I’ll have what he is having.

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STOP SOCIALISM

Posted by: info58 | January 9, 2011 1:58 PM
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“MSNBC talk show host Keith Olbermann, who acknowledged and apologized for his role in the acrimonious political climate,..”

This comment in this article is the only time I’ve read/heard that Olbermann apologized for his inflammatory comments on his TV program. I wonder why. In addition to such bad actors as Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity etc., I would also include MSNBC stars such as Olbermann, Ed Schultz, and Chris Matthews. I’ve never watched Larry O’Donnell but I’ve seen him on Morning Joe and he’s just as bad as the others. In fact, he’s been referred to as Crazy Larry because of his uncontrolled outbursts. (I’m still ambivalent about Rachel Madow.) The Left is just as culpable as the Right. And I’m especially not forgiving highly partisan politicians either.

Posted by: Paaa | January 9, 2011 1:58 PM
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The left can’t honestly go about destroying the country, then expecting people not to be angry. I’m amazed that organized violence against the left HASN’T broken out; this is a blessing in pateince that the left fails to realize. All of their demonization, and smearing, and lies will come to roost in a conservative political pushback. COnservatives aren’t to blame AT ALL. The left broke the country, and they want to jail anyone who doesn’t see it their way.

Posted by: info58 | January 9, 2011 1:56 PM
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The sheriff makes a partisan jab like that? He’s no “hero”… He’s adding to the problem!!

Posted by: Capitalist-1 | January 9, 2011 1:55 PM
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The left can’t honestly go about destroying the country, then expecting people not to be angry. I’m amazed that organized violence against the left HASN’T broken out; this is a blessing in pateince that the left fails to realize. All of their demonization, and smearing, and lies will come to roost in a conservative pushback. COnservatives aren’t to blame AT ALL. The left broke the country, and they want to jail anyone who doesn’t see it their way.

Posted by: info58 | January 9, 2011 1:55 PM
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I see we have pretty good evidence here of a Democrat engaging in profiling.

Oh, the irony.

Posted by: diehardlib | January 9, 2011 1:53 PM
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In my opinion the sheriff used the tragic event to speculate and draw attention to himself in a completely unprofessional manner.

Posted by: Observer21 | January 9, 2011 1:51 PM
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Dupnik?

It’s easy to attribute such incidents to the level of vitriol in the public discourse. But much of it emanates from the left…just review the personal denigration of Bush43 made by Nancy Pelosi and other so-called leaders of the Democrat Party since Election 2000.

And none of the vitriol bears any relationship to the Intentional MURDER of 13 members of the US Military on October 5, 2009 at Ft. Hood – the most populous US military installation in the world, by Major Nidal Malik Hasan, 39 year old US Army Doctor -psychiatrist, clearly an Islamic crazed individusal.

Need I remind you adherents of political correctness of the Columbine High School shooting where 2 students killed 13 people plus themselves … without any regard to political vitriol. They were simply not ordinary kids. They were kids with serious psychological problems according to Peter Langman author of: “Why Kids Kill: Inside the Minds of School Shooters”.

The Sheriff should stick to invesigqating and reporting the facts – he is not the person to be ascribe externam causation, especially so soon after the incident. Let the facts DEVELOP.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | January 9, 2011 1:51 PM
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Dupnik was clearly rattled, but he was also on to something we all recognize in today’s society: our modes of communication, however helpful on one hand, have developed faster than our human capacity to understand and respect them, ergo to use them properly.

We are a people unmoored from the basics of human civility, and we forget the power of our words. As a Christian, I am particularly concerned with those who claim to be Christians and then forget how often we are cautioned in the Bible to be mindful before we speak.

I am also concerned with the rush to call the gunman a lone wolf who “acted alone.” Perhaps he did, but to divorce any member of today’s society from the nerve center of the rest of it is to make a grave mistake. Again, Christians should particularly be held to the fire here. We are told by Christ that “what you do to the least of these, you do to me.” In other words, even if he is a lone mentally ill man, we are influencing him in how we talk, act, incite. When we speak we should be mindful of “the least of these”, including how our words affect the children of our population, who we have all but abandoned to the vagaries of an amoral market who wants a piece of their soul from the first day of life in a Barney diaper.

Where is our dignity?

I am certainly not encouraging repression of our communication modalities. But I am calling for personal responsibility at a much higher level of personal and social evolution than we have yet mastered.

Little ears are listening. Little eyes are watching. And the vulnerable are in the mix.

I would like to believe that as a society we are capable of finding our social maturity after over 200 years a nation, with our amazing freedoms, and with it our enormous responsibilities.

Is it possible in a land this large, and so complex, with such freedoms that we barely understand?

Will Americans rise to the challenge? Or is the double edged sword of our freedoms more than we can handle, and one that in the end will pierce our hearts, killing us all?

Posted by: lindsaycurren | January 9, 2011 1:50 PM
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The attempt to draw an ethical equivalence between the language of force on the left and the language of violence on the right is absurd. There is a qualitative distinction between the two that can be summed up in the observation that people on the left don’t show up at political events wearing guns but people on the right do.

Posted by: QuickBen | January 9, 2011 1:45 PM
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The GOP is calling this Sheriff out of line, but THEY are out of line and don’t see it. They encourage people to carry guns, they encourage people to distrust their government, they repeatedly say Obama isn’t a citizen, is brainwashing children, is a terrorist himself. They call for people to exercies 2nd Amendment rights if they aren’t happy with election outcomes. It is the GOP who is encouraging the nutters to come out of the woodwork and do these heinous acts. I won’t vote for another Republican until they come out and condemn the lies and hate speech of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, etc. The white supremecy hate talk has to STOP here!

Posted by: GenuineRisk | January 9, 2011 1:42 PM
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Dupnik for President!

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The GOP is calling this Sheriff out of line, but THEY are out of line and don’t see it. They encourage people to carry guns, they encourage people to distrust their government, they repeatedly say Obama isn’t a citizen, is brainwashing children, is a terrorist himself. They call for people to exercies 2nd Amendment rights if they aren’t happy with election outcomes. It is the GOP who is encouraging the nutters to come out of the woodwork and do these heinous acts. I won’t vote for another Republican until they come out and condemn the lies and hate speech of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, etc. The white supremecy hate talk has to STOP here!

Posted by: GenuineRisk | January 9, 2011 1:41 PM
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“Dupnik” (maybe more accurately “Stupnik”) is a 74 year old DEMOCRAT? Democrat Party members over 70 are either senile or old-line Stalinists who slipped into the country after WWII. Hmmm…was Dupnik born here or did he come here with his parents as Eastern European “displaced persons?” (DPs – back in the heavily Polish populated Chicago suburbs we had a different meaning for that 2 – letter acronym)

Posted by: ddaly7 | January 9, 2011 1:40 PM
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Clarence W. Dupnik is a sleaze for taking advantage of this tragedy to peddle his own vitriolic message.

The Obama and the democrats are like hyenas sniffing blood and they will put on a full court press to tarnish the Tea Party with the blood of these victims.

Dupnik and his ilk are a most disgusting people.

Posted by: Ruhu | January 9, 2011 1:38 PM
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Whatever side of this debate folks here stand on the one thing we can all agree on is that at this very moment Sarah ‘I Quit’ Palin is thinking of ways she can parlay this incident into More Money For The Palin Family.

Posted by: apspa1 | January 9, 2011 1:37 PM
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The sheriff should stick to police enforcement of the laws of Pima County instead of pyscho-babbling what was going on in the mind of a mass killer. If the killer was so focused on right wing political hatred, why did the perp kill six others including a Repub nominated US judge, and eleven year old girl and four others and wound thirteen more. His hatred was in fact quite boundless. Following the Obama crowd of wasting no crisis, NPR immediately ginned up the Congresswoman’s wound to a killing, and CNN used the NPR report to call up a bunch of Obama supporters to blame anyone who dissented with Obama over the past two years for killing a Congresswoman. Too bad for NPR, thank God the Congresswoman was wounded. NPR, the Sheriff and those who want to spew their hatred of dissent with tortured logic are creating a country without rule of law or its enforcement. Rather, blame their neighbors. The electorate has spoken once, but recall has to be in the wind with the events of the first few hours of the mass murder in Arizona. Certainly, after Juan Williams, Wikipedia tape misreporting, and hysterical reporting of the Congresswoman’s death, NPR should be cut loose from the public treasury.

Posted by: Donschott | January 9, 2011 1:32 PM
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Any 74 year-old who is still aligned with the Democrat Party is either senile or a stealth communisy (hmm…”Dupnik”…possibly slipped into the country from some Eastern Eurpean commie hellhole after WWII?)

Posted by: ddaly7 | January 9, 2011 1:32 PM
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This man is my hero!

Posted by: nellie3ster | January 9, 2011 1:31 PM
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This guy’s my new hero – but of course, the people he’s talking about won’t see themselves in his comments because they are so totally self-absorbed (and their listeners have no ability to discriminate fact from BS).

Posted by: lizlaurel | January 9, 2011 1:26 PM
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This tragedy has done nothing to diminish the hateful wrath of comments. Just read all the mouth frothing rabidity that has been posted here. Some of these goons sound like they’re ready to kill someone. Civility has to begin in the blogosphere. Go post your ignorant hatred at evil.com

Posted by: TeddyRoosevelt | January 9, 2011 1:26 PM
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Finally someone with the courage and insight to expose the right wing cesspool especially in AZ.

Posted by: vztownes | January 9, 2011 1:25 PM
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“The crossfire is intense, so penetrate through enemy territory by bombing through the press, and use your strong weapons — your Big Guns — to drive to the hole. Shoot with accuracy; aim high and remember it takes blood, sweat and tears to win,” — Sarah Palin

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“The crossfire is intense, so penetrate through enemy territory by bombing through the press, and use your strong weapons — your Big Guns — to drive to the hole. Shoot with accuracy; aim high and remember it takes blood, sweat and tears to win,” — Sarah Palin

Posted by: insider9909 | January 9, 2011 1:17 PM
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What “public” is the author referring too? All the public or the “wapo public”. When something like this happens the left politburo with out any evidence starts placing blame on the right and those that subscribe to the tea party. When the left says something it is correct and sacrosanct. When the right says something it is hate speech and anti social. The mad hatter lives! I think the people on the left have been inhaling too many fumes from broken new “green” mercury laden light bulbs…..

Posted by: ezwriter | January 9, 2011 1:16 PM
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Yeah, let’s blame Beck and O’Reilly as Oberman (MSNBC) and Roland Martin (CNN) did yesterday…pfft, this guy is a nut job and from his background is probably a left winger…nice try!

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What “public” is the author referring too? All the public or the “wapo public”. When something like this happens the left politburo with out any evidence starts placing blame on the right and those that subscribe to the tea party. When the left says something it is correct and sacrosanct. When the right says something it is hate speech and anti social. The mad hatter lives! I think the people on the left have been inhaling too many fumes from broken new “green” mercury laden light bulbs…..

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I hope that the good citizens of AZ remember that Dupnik chose politics over law enforcement and evidence.

Posted by: bethg1841 | January 9, 2011 1:10 PM
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Show me one concrete piece of evidence that:
1. This moron was a ‘Follower’ of Sarah Palin.

2. That he was a member of the ‘Tea Party’.

3. That he ever voted or voted Republican.

4. That he ever contacted Sarah Palin.

5. Proof that he DIDN’T Read and avow Communism.

6. That he wasn’t a LIBERAL as described by a close friend to the NYTs.

7. Show me concrete proof ANYONE connected with the Tea party of Republicans or Sarah Palin vandalized her offices!!

I’m waiting . . . waiting. . . . :crickets:

Oh, I forgot — FACTS don’t matter to the Despicable LEFT!!

Posted by: Armymom10 | January 9, 2011

why don’t you read the article instead of spewing your nastiness. His statement was the vitriol being spewed could effect a mentally unstable person. That is the fact in his statement. Maybe a better thing would be to shut off all the message boards and comments sections where people get echo chamber support for their violent or vile comments

Posted by: chet_brewer | January 9, 2011 1:08 PM
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Maybe this happened because Beck and Limbaugh go around saying they want to kill people;

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Dupnik, 74, a Democrat who has served as Pima County sheriff since 1980, is known for his colorful and often bluntly partisan commentary. Last year, he refused to enforce Arizona’s aggressive new law targeting illegal immigrants, calling it “stupid” and “racist.” He coined the phrase “political fornickaboobery,” to describe the motives he felt were behind the crackdown.

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Looks like he found this a wonderful opportunity to express his views further.

All we asked for is sane immigration laws and enforcement.

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Maybe this happened because Beck and Limbaugh go around saying they want to kill people;

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Maybe this happened because Beck and Limbaugh go around saying they want to kill people;

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“”I hope to GOD that Sara Palin is reading this.” Posted by: theFieldMarshall”"

“Don’t think reading is in her skill set, dude. Neither are empathy for the suffering of others or compassion.” Posted by: nicekid

But dude! Sarah Palin recently spent several hours in Haiti. What more does she have to do to convince you that she is a compassionate, humanitarian giant? In actually Palin actually had to touch a poor, black person’s hand!

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Maybe this happened because Beck and Limbaugh go around saying they want to kill people;

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Mental instability + guns (lot of guns) + hateful rhetoric = ?

I was taught never to light a match near gasoline.

Posted by: lorgig | January 9, 2011 1:05 PM
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Mental instability + guns (lot of guns) + hateful rhetoric = ?

I was taught never to light a match near gasoline.

Posted by: lorgig | January 9, 2011 1:05 PM
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Our country’s very dignity is at stake?

There appears to be more chaos in the News than perhaps, at the shooting sight. Comments made here, will not help to bring calm across our country. We all express our aversion to crime,where ever committed, that image is wiped out in our day to day living.Our expressions that come out of dissent are as extreme as our expressions of Happiness. It is not the gun only that is killing, it is our attitudes. In an instant we turn from good to bad, our minds are just balancing on the thin side of the coin or wedge.The same expressions are seen on the TV that we watch every day.Our society is so advanced, we have forgotten the acts of civility, each day is like a Video that is fast-forwarded-this is no way that we should act like this and at the same time preach.God help this countryit, is not war, it is just act of chaos in our mind.

Posted by: jayrkay | January 9, 2011 1:05 PM
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The Right Wing Media lead by Fox News along with Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh should also be charged as Co-Conspirators in this tragedy. Their constant lies and distortions have fouled the airways since Obama won the Election for Prsident. They could not get over that Obama was elected and have done so much to divide this country. And yes, some of the rethoric coming from MSNBC hasn’t helped either, but it also hasn’t been on the grand scale as Fox News has. The FCC needs to step in and start regulating the cable news. And people like Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and others who believe that lies is reporting should be banned from the airways all together. There also should be a change in the rules for all US Congressmen and woman and US Senators that when you take the floor and outright lie just to please your base you should be censured and or impeached. Congressional people are immuned to prosecution if they outright lie and this should be changed.

Posted by: sumo1 | January 9, 2011 1:04 PM
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The Right Wing Media lead by Fox News along with Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh should also be charged as Co-Conspirators in this tragedy. Their constant lies and distortions have fouled the airways since Obama won the Election for Prsident. They could not get over that Obama was elected and have done so much to divide this country. And yes, some of the rethoric coming from MSNBC hasn’t helped either, but it also hasn’t been on the grand scale as Fox News has. The FCC needs to step in and start regulating the cable news. And people like Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and others who believe that lies is reporting should be banned from the airways all together. There also should be a change in the rules for all US Congressmen and woman and US Senators that when you take the floor and outright lie just to please your base you should be censured and or impeached. Congressional people are immuned to prosecution if they outright lie and this should be changed.

Posted by: sumo1 | January 9, 2011 1:03 PM
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The Right Wing Media lead by Fox News along with Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh should also be charged as Co-Conspirators in this tragedy. Their constant lies and distortions have fouled the airways since Obama won the Election for Prsident. They could not get over that Obama was elected and have done so much to divide this country. And yes, some of the rethoric coming from MSNBC hasn’t helped either, but it also hasn’t been on the grand scale as Fox News has. The FCC needs to step in and start regulating the cable news. And people like Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and others who believe that lies is reporting should be banned from the airways all together. There also should be a change in the rules for all US Congressmen and woman and US Senators that when you take the floor and outright lie just to please your base you should be censured and or impeached. Congressional people are immuned to prosecution if they outright lie and this should be changed.

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Tell me: which reckless and irresponsible politician said, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun”?

That guy is the one to blame.

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If it bleeds, it leads . . .

Look at the press coverage of this tragedy – the big eye of American corporate media is focused on Tucson . . . almost to the exclusion of everything else occuring in the world.

Team Coverage ’cause we’re in yer face 24/7/365 . . .

. . . oh yeah, by the way . . . we’re in an “event” now so the advertising rates have just increased by 15% – ya should have had a contract. Maybe we can get ya set up for the next one . . . but ya gotta act quick!

The yammering gasbags on cable TV and talk radio will hang their heads sheepishly for about a week and then it’ll be back to normal with them spewing their wretched refuse.

Why can’t we have a “Turn Off The Hate” campaign where the OFF button is used on the remote for Limbaugh, Olbermann and the rest of the gang of prostitutes?

Huh? Hun? HUH?

Can you hear me now?

Posted by: palmtree2001 | January 9, 2011 1:01 PM
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I think the people (including this sheriff) who blame some talking head for this violence are just projecting. Consumed by their own twisted hateful thoughts, they believe others could be likewise inspired.

What sort of nutcase really thinks the drivel from Beck, Palin, Maddow, or Olberman is hateful? You people are crazy.

Posted by: dacyzyn | January 9, 2011 1:01 PM
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No one is saying Sarah Palin or other conservatives are legally responsible for the actions of this seriously deluded individual. He is responsible for his own decisions and should reap the consequences. But words have consequences too, and the language so frequently utilized by Palin, Angle, and others – comments about “eliminating” the opposition, “reloading,” and “resorting to our second amendment rights” in order to deal with folks on the other side of the political aisle, not to mention the visual metaphors of using crosshairs to target individuals in election campaigns – only helps to normalize the actions described by that language. Once people get used to hearing it, its not a far leap for someone who is mentally vulnerable to act on it, thinking that it is, in fact, normal or expected behavior.

So no, its not Palin’s fault. But she bears responsibility for setting such a nasty, violent tone, as do many others on the right.

Posted by: glh032003 | January 9, 2011 1:00 PM
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No one is saying Sarah Palin or other conservatives are legally responsible for the actions of this seriously deluded individual. He is responsible for his own decisions and should reap the consequences. But words have consequences too, and the language so frequently utilized by Palin, Angle, and others – comments about “eliminating” the opposition, “reloading,” and “resorting to our second amendment rights” in order to deal with folks on the other side of the political aisle, not to mention the visual metaphors of using crosshairs to target individuals in election campaigns – only helps to normalize the actions described by that language. Once people get used to hearing it, its not a far leap for someone who is mentally vulnerable to act on it, thinking that it is, in fact, normal or expected behavior.

So no, its not Palin’s fault. But she bears responsibility for setting such a nasty, violent tone, as do many others on the right.

Posted by: glh032003 | January 9, 2011 12:59 PM
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The hatemongers and bigots on the right, and their conduit for hate, FOX and Hate Radio, are already falsely accusing the killer as a “leftist.” So a “leftist” who hates the government, wants the gold standard (like Beck), shoots democrats, one of whom voted in favor of the “leftist” health care bill. No! This nut took his cue from those on the right yelling about “second amendment solutions” and showing bulls eye targets on this democratic candidate, and yelling and screaming at rallies, spewing the teapot hate.

Posted by: billaldridge | January 9, 2011 12:59 PM
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Dupnik condemned the “atmosphere of hatred and bigotry” that he said has gripped the nation and suggested that the 22-year-old suspect being held in the shooting was mentally ill and therefore more susceptible to overheated messages in the media…….

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Of course, we are all responsible for our careless or thoughtless rhetoric, but what the sheriff seems to be saying here is the 22 year old is “mentally ill” and therefore not entirely responsible for his own behavior. I guess this is what separates liberals from conservatives; personal responsibility.

Posted by: sklein19 | January 9, 2011 12:58 PM
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Republicans have stepped in a pile of their own violent rhetoric, and now they are trying to talk their way out of it. Forget it. The public isn’t that stupid. The lesson here is simple — no more threats of violence, explicit or implied. Don’t try it again. We’ve all had a gut full of it. We’re not going to live in that kind of country, and any politician who thinks we are is going to get voted out of office. So you better shape up and watch your mouths.

Posted by: dparks2 | January 9, 2011 12:58 PM
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“The crossfire is intense, so penetrate through enemy territory by bombing through the press, and use your strong weapons — your Big Guns — to drive to the hole. Shoot with accuracy; aim high and remember it takes blood, sweat and tears to win,” — Sarah Palin

Posted by: insider9909 | January 9, 2011 12:56 PM
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The sheriff’s depiction of AZ as Arizonistan (my metaphor not his) where political opposition is murdered could not be more on the money. Push the button of the person on the edge of sanity they go off. This wacko’s self described political terrorism on youtube was actually carried out. Many of the button pushers are Tea Party candidates or electees (Miller, Hayworth, Bachmann, Paul, Palladino) while the Dems play the racist card when Obama is chastised for spending too much.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 9, 2011 12:56 PM
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Last year, two Pittsburgh policemen were killed by a disturbed individual who believed the rightwing fantasy that Obama was going to take away his guns. The far left may be somewhat looney, but you don’t hear any of them talking about government overthrow (second amendment solutions) or taking their country back, even at the height of bush-cheney. Leftwingers don’t go to marches and rallies packing heat. Lefties do not promote outright lies about the president or the Democrats, let alone the republicans. Ther righties ahve done all that and more. Frankly, I’m just surprised that something like this hasn’t happened sooner.

Posted by: mikel7 | January 9, 2011 12:55 PM
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Let’s see, who’s the real bigot here?

Tea partiers, who had nothing at all do with this shooting?

Or Sherriff Dupnik, who rushed to condemn politial vitriol (code word: right wing talk radio) before all the facts were in?

You’re a hack and a tool, Sherriff.

And as for Sandhya — are the Sherriff’s comments realling resonating with the “public,” are just with left wing partisans and certain Washington Post reporters who sympathize with them?

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Last year, two Pittsburgh policemen were killed by a disturbed individual who believed the rightwing fantasy that Obama was going to take away his guns. The far left may be somewhat looney, but you don’t hear any of them talking about government overthrow (second amendment solutions) or taking their country back, even at the height of bush-cheney. Leftwingers don’t go to marches and rallies packing heat. Lefties do ot promote outright lies about the president or the Democrats, let alone the republicans. Ther righties ahve done all that and more. Frankly, I’m just surprised that something like this hasn’t happened sooner.

Posted by: mikel7 | January 9, 2011 12:54 PM
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Well, technically, Sheriff, he’s innocent until proven guilty; and your instant psychoanalysis of him is not your job.
Also, vitriol comes from both sides of the aisles. There are also many, many people in crisis in the US but nobody’s helping them.
There’s also no perspective. Alas, shootings of public figures occurs, “vitriol” or not. Attempts of actual assassinations just in living memory, JFK, RFK, ML King, Ford, Wallace, Reagan…and all by demented people straight out of the M’naughton rule.

Posted by: Beckola | January 9, 2011 12:53 PM
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Why has Arizona become a Mecca for prejudice and bigotry? One has to look no further than the Arizona Governor (I wonder if the right will take him to task for using the word Mecca).

Posted by: thomgr | January 9, 2011 12:53 PM
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Sadly, I’ve been expecting something like this since the run up to the presidential election. The vitriol, the provacation and rhetoric coming from the right served as a catalyst to the disrespect, incivility and anger. Yet, none of the republican legislators (or fox fans, beckheads, limbaugh dittoheads) asked for a calming of the rhetoric – instead, they took their place in the clown parade and defended the right to free speech. I’m all for free speech, except when it incites violence. It’s been a deliberate campaign to keep the anger frothing – and folks are suprised at the end result? All to score political points. It’s absolutely pathetic.

Bravo Sheriff!!

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Most comments do not have the finger on the malady that is affecting our Nation.It is easy for us to say the person responsible is mentaly disturbed-who is not disturbed after the multiple eruptions that have taken place in America. In another country,this would much severe consequences.
Where is our responsibility?
There appears to be more chaos in the News than perhaps, at the shooting sight. Comments made here, will not help to bring calm across our country. We all express our aversion to crime,where ever committed, that image is wiped out in our day to day living.Our expressions that come out of dissent are as extreme as our expressions of Happiness. It is not the gun only that is killing, it is our attitudes. In an instant we turn from good to bad, our minds are just balancing on the thin side of the coin or wedge.The same expressions are seen on the TV that we watch every day.Our society is so advanced, we have forgotten the acts of civility, each day is like a Video that is fast-forwarded-this is no way that we should act like this and at the same time preach.God help this countryit, is not war, it is just act of chaos in our mind.

Posted by: jayrkay | January 9, 2011 12:53 PM
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The Washington Post staff is prejudiced, if not bigoted, in how they treat conservatives. Is that part of the problem or is the sheriff just revealing his own prejudices?

Posted by: edbyronadams | January 9, 2011 12:52 PM
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Show me one concrete piece of evidence that:
1. This moron was a ‘Follower’ of Sarah Palin.

2. That he was a member of the ‘Tea Party’.

3. That he ever voted or voted Republican.

4. That he ever contacted Sarah Palin.

5. Proof that he DIDN’T Read and avow Communism.

6. That he wasn’t a LIBERAL as described by a close friend to the NYTs.

7. Show me concrete proof ANYONE connected with the Tea party of Republicans or Sarah Palin vandalized her offices!!

I’m waiting . . . waiting. . . . :crickets:

Oh, I forgot — FACTS don’t matter to the Despicable LEFT!!

Posted by: Armymom10 | January 9, 2011 12:51 PM
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To sorry Charlie: So if Arizona had used the death penalty more often than 24 times since 1976, then Loughner would have been dissuaded? I don’t think so. It does seem, however, that Loughner was listening quite closely to Beck and the gun-solutions crowd.

Posted by: JPMinNC | January 9, 2011 12:50 PM
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Maybe this happened because Beck and Limbaugh go around saying they want to kill people; one would have to be mentally unstable to listen to either one of these lying Nazis. It makes me sick to my stomach that it is supposed by some members that this “Tea Party” selfishness and Republican greed somehow represents anything “Christian” or even American; these certainly DO NOT and anyone who think these do is self-deceived.

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Sheriff Dupnik said:
“There’s reason to believe that this individual may have a mental issue. And I think people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol,” he said during his televised remarks. “People tend to pooh-pooh this business about all the vitriol we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences.”
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Is what Dupnik said by blaming talk radio for this shooting not vitriol just because he said it with somewhat of a calm voice? Is this not essentially trying to incite violence against certain talk radio and television personalities? This was a briefing on a violent tragedy and he used it to make a political point, very inappropriate for the occassion. After the sheriff’s “vitriol” at his press conference you can rest assured that the threats against people like Beck and Limbaugh increased dramatically. Is that what the sheriff was trying to accomplish?

Posted by: fastaire | January 9, 2011 12:47 PM
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Maybe this happened because Beck and Limbaugh go around saying they want to kill people; one would have to be mentally unstable to listen to either one of these lying Nazis. It makes me sick to my stomach that it is supposed by some members that this “Tea Party” selfishness and Republican greed somehow represents anything “Christian” or even American; these certainly DO NOT and anyone who think these do is self-deceived.

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Do everyone a favor, Sheriff Dupnik: shut up yourself.

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FIFTH AMENDMENT “REMEDY”:

Rosehillfreedomfighter: “When will Sarah Palin apologize for her crosshairs for this Congresswoman? The silence is deafening.”

“On the advice of my legal team, I refuse to apologize as it might incriminate me. “

Posted by: TOMHERE | January 9, 2011 12:44 PM
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One of the shooters ‘friend’s’ said his views were that of an extreme left wing, liberal person

It’s in one of the msnbc articles….so much for him being a right wing tea party nut job.

Posted by: cavatellie | January 9, 2011 12:43 PM
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SARAH PALIN IS THE ANTI-CHRIST.

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FIFTH AMENDMENT “REMEDY”:

Rosehillfreedomfighter: “When will Sarah Palin apologize for her crosshairs for this Congresswoman? The silence is deafening.”

“On the advice of my legal team, I refuse to answer as it might incriminate me. “

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“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: “Don’t Retreat, Instead – RELOAD!” Pls see my Facebook page.” — Sarah Palin, FOXNews commentator, March 2010

Posted by: ldbuttre | January 9, 2011 12:42 PM
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“”I hope to GOD that Sara Palin is reading this.” Posted by: theFieldMarshall”"

“Don’t think reading is in her skill set, dude. Neither are empathy for the suffering of others or compassion.” Posted by: nicekid

But dude! Sarah Palin recently spent several hours in Haiti. What more does she have to do to convince you that she is a compassionate, humanitarian giant? In actually Palin actually had to touch a poor, black person’s hand!

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One of the shooters ‘friend’s’ said his views were that of an extreme left wing, liberal person

It’s in one of the msnbc articles….so much for him being a right wing tea party nut job.

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“I hope to GOD that Sara Palin is reading this.” Posted by: theFieldMarshall | January 9, 2011 12:10 PM

Don’t think reading is in her skill set, dude. Neither are empathy for the suffering of others or compassion.

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It took this tragedy to get her to take down her gunsight page. So much for reload.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 9, 2011 12:40 PM
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I suspect we will discover Laughner had a generalized disdain for the entire political spectrum. The next analysis will focus on where the system failed him. Was it when he began using drugs a few years ago? Was it when he joined the military? When he was kicked out of community college? And then they will talk about all the influences in his life. They will try to paint a picture of why someone would commit such a heinuous act. The problem is it’s a tired story line. The question we should be asking ourselves is why these sort of shootings seem more prevalent today than say 100 years ago.

Posted by: h20andoil | January 9, 2011 12:40 PM
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Re Mansour:
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Posted by: Lamentations | January 9, 2011 12:39 PM
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When the government forces businesses to behave morally and ethically, I applaud. The GOP and the Tea Party believe to their cores that businesses should operate as rapaciously as they want. Let the invisible hand of the free market take care of ethics and morality. Same as with Fox News and their venomous spew that riles up the mentally challenged who feel threatened when Fox News tells them to feel threatened. The right wing belief that imposing a few operating rules on Health Insurance Companies is a “government takeover of health care” indicates how credulous right wingers are. They hate. Oh do they hate. Facts and logic are ignored in favor of baseless beliefs. Now we come to the schizophrenic who takes (his 2nd Amendment right intact) a gun to a street corner political event. He shot the politician through the head. Was he a leftist or a right wing authoritarian? It doesn’t matter. He listens to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and Bill (Tide Comes In, Tide Goes Out) O’Reilly, believes what they tell him: that America is being taken over by Liberal elites, and acts.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | January 9, 2011 12:38 PM
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“There’s reason to believe that this individual may have a mental issue. And I think people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol,” he said during his televised remarks. “People tend to pooh-pooh this business about all the vitriol we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech, but it’s not without consequences.”
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To me these are sensible and fairly obvious remarks. To far too many posters on this very thread, the sheriff is out of line, spouting “left wing dogma”.

I can only suppose those posters prefer the voice of a gun to the voice of a voter – and that the U.S. should strive to evolve a political system more like Afghanistan’s or Pakistan’s.

Posted by: shadowmagician | January 9, 2011 12:37 PM
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If MSM does not calm down you will see more of this. The vitriol out there is the most hateful I have ever heard or read.

I have my opinion as to which offends most but is just my opinion…don’t want to p*s anyone off.

Posted by: njtou | January 9, 2011 12:36 PM
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Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik said “Arizona has become ‘a mecca for prejudice and bigotry”, and we know WHO started it, don’t we?
Where is that stupid, dumb blonde now? I mean, the fricking idiot who signed into law, thus making racism the oficial policy of Arizona?

Posted by: analyst72 | January 9, 2011 12:36 PM
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The government has nearly ONE MILLION spies who cost us tens of billions to prevent terroristic acts. We’re spending bililons on government evedropping programs and storage facilities for all the collected data. What happened?

Posted by: mongolovesheriff | January 9, 2011 12:35 PM
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Palin, Bachmann, Hannity, et al. are the one who should stepping up and condemning the violence, not just sending their condolences.

Posted by: petesnydero | January 9, 2011 12:35 PM
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By the way plaza04433 “drunken lush” is redundant, “increasingly bloated” should by hyphenated, “whos” should have been “whose”, and I assume you meant “discern” when you wrote “decern”. With an education like yours, no wonder you reach such silly conclusions. Have you ever lived in Arizona and had to deal with the problems there – or are you one of the millions who have decided from hundreds or thousands of miles away that you know what should be done in that state.

Posted by: strongundertow | January 9, 2011 12:35 PM
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If MSM does not calm down you will see more of this. The vitriol out there is the most hateful I have ever heard or read.

I have my opinion as to which offends most but is just my opinion…don’t want to p*s anyone off.

Posted by: njtou | January 9, 2011 12:34 PM
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When will Sarah Palin apologize for her crosshairs for this Congresswoman? The silence is deafening.

Posted by: RoseHillFreedomFighter | January 9, 2011 12:34 PM
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Let’s not try to link the “nation’s heated political discourse” with criminal activity and that there might even be the possibility “nation’s heated political discourse” has “taken a dangerous turn.” “Heated political discourse” is a First Amendment Right. If there was such a link then why was it not made with Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma City bomber) and the Fort Hood Massacre (by a U.S. Army Officer who proved to be a Muslim Terrorist) and the 9/11 Muslim Terrorists that attacked the Twin Towers (NYC) and the Pentagon. The First Amendment is about “Freedom Speech” and not about freedom to kill people. There is a big difference between the two. Freedom of Speech is legal, but murder is against the law!

Think of all the Tea Party Rallies (held at the height of the Health Care Reform Debate) and all the Town Hall Meeting that took place around the same time where people (millions of them) voiced their opposition (“heated political discourse”) toward health care reform. That was “Freedom of Speech” at its best. Yet, there was a single shot fired at any Tea Party Rallies or any Town Hall Meetings. People on both sides of the issue called one another names (Freedom of Speech), but no shots were fired (criminal activity). No shots were fired when the President of the United States of America referred to the GOP as “enemies.” Let’s not now try to tie criminal activity with “heated political discourse.” There is no need to limit or ban Freedom of Speech because some violate the Laws of the Land. Deal with the law breakers and leave the law abiding people alone.

Maybe it is time to take the domestic terrorist threat in this country seriously. When the “Jared Loughner’s (Arizona shooting yesterday)” and “Maj. Nidal Hasan’s (Fort Hood 2009)” are caught red handed at the scene, then maybe our laws should be changed to reflect the changing times. Those caught and apprehended at the scene should have a trial and if convicted they should be executed without the right of appeal, because it is not their guilt that is in question and such people (by the mere fact of their committing those horrific crimes) do not deserve the right of appeal. Congress can change the law. Those not caught at the scene of then their guilt or innocence is a different story. Domestic terrorists are ‘enemies of the State’ and they should be treated as such and treated no differently than a saboteur in time of war!

Posted by: charlie651 | January 9, 2011 12:34 PM
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Wow, Arizona’s a mess: Rightwingoland. Guns all over the place. Population roiled up by political issues like immigration and healthcare. This Sheriff is sending us all a message.

Posted by: dudh | January 9, 2011 12:33 PM
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As long as people such as Limbaugh and Beck put out inflamatory rhetoric calculated to earn them money by dispensing hatret you will see the least stable encouraged to act on their words.

Interesting how the Teabaggers are now so quick to make excuses for themselves.

Posted by: reporter1 | January 9, 2011 12:33 PM
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I even heard NPR minimize Dupnik’s comments so not to offend the honor good standing of the Tea Party and Co. Very frustrating. Thought Dupnik was right on point.

We should also remember that Congresswoman Giffords is relatively conservative by most standards – Lord knows what this young man thinks and feels about Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: lorgig | January 9, 2011 12:33 PM
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As long as people such as Limbaugh and Beck put out inflamatory rhetoric calculated to earn them money by dispensing hatret you will see the least stable encouraged to act on their words.

Interesting how the Teabaggers are now so quick to make excuses for themselves.

Posted by: reporter1 | January 9, 2011 12:32 PM
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The shooter is clearly a nut-job. How convenient for lefties to claim he’s a Palin/Beck acolyte. Obscene. Sick as the guy who shot Reagan? Was that about ideology? Or dementia?

Do you really really rejoice in dead persons–especially a 9-year-old–to carry your political water?

How sickening!

Posted by: mftill | January 9, 2011 12:32 PM
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Homeland Security Security Janet Napolitano warned of this in 2009. The Republicans lambasted her for speaking the truth. Any apologies Republicans? I didn’t think so.

Posted by: GBED989 | January 9, 2011 12:31 PM
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When will Sarah Palin apologize for her crosshairs for this Congresswoman? The silence is deafening.

Posted by: RoseHillFreedomFighter | January 9, 2011 12:31 PM
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I really DON’T miss Ronald Reagan right now. Know why not? Ronald Reagan financed and then had the U.S. Army assist the Guatemalan Army’s massacre of almost 200,000 Mayan Indians. And Ronald Reagan betrayed his country by selling weapons to the Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran while the Ayatollah was holding U.S. hostages in order to screw Carter.

Posted by: jjedif | January 9, 2011 12:30 PM
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The right is in a total panic. Fox News’ coverage of this horror was enlightening. The on air guys were all stammering and struggling to make sure that their viewers understood we just don’t know if this was political or not… Clearly these guys are feeling guilty.

The nutjobs posting here are suggesting this is Obama’s fault somehow. Pathetic and THIS time this rhetorical nonsense won’t gain any traction in the media. This could with any luck spell the end of the tea party “movement”.

Posted by: Observer001 | January 9, 2011 12:29 PM
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“I hope to GOD that Sara Palin is reading this.” Posted by: theFieldMarshall | January 9, 2011 12:10 PM

Don’t think reading is in her skill set, dude. Neither are empathy for the suffering of others or compassion.

Posted by: nicekid | January 9, 2011 12:28 PM
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Just read your deceptive byline: “Public rallies around Dupnik”. It should read: “Left wing bloggers agree with Dupnik even before facts are in”.

Posted by: bethg1841 | January 9, 2011 12:27 PM
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Last time I looked, MSNBC was spewing just as much hate as anything one sees on Fox. If you don’t see that it is coming from both sides, you are a fool.

Posted by: mmourges | January 9, 2011 12:26 PM
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Let me see if I get this. We have a sheriff who has been busy telling everyone who will listen (eastern media especially) that he isn’t going to enforce the immigration laws (it’s racist, you know, to set limits on citizenship), has called the people in the state who disagree with him racist, is sheriff in a yuppie-based environment where slamming the motivations of those with whom you disagree is the norm, and somehow – somehow – he is now shocked that political rhetoric has gotten intense. The newspapers who have been giving this guy a free ride for awhile (Post included) should pay attention to his comment “I know we have free speech and all” (or words to that effect) that he follows by indicating that free speech is clearly the problem. I am not a Palin fan – and ads with targets on them are childish at best – but the danger from Saturday is how this moron sheriff will use the suffering to help muzzle people with whom he disagrees.

Violence always has unintended consequences – and inevitably it serves as an excuse by one group to control another. Maybe – just maybe – if this self-important oaf had actually listened to the people of the state and found some way to deal with mobs of illegals instead of patting himself on the back with how enlightened he was we’d have gotten the noise level in Arizona down a notch. That probably would not have gotten him as much media attention – he is, after all, just a politician (with a gun) – but it might have actually done some good.

Posted by: strongundertow | January 9, 2011 12:26 PM
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Just read your deceptive byline: “Public rallies around Dupnik”. It should read: “Left wing bloggers agree with Dupnik even before facts are in”.

Posted by: bethg1841 | January 9, 2011 12:26 PM
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I don’t buy it, Sandra. In the midst of this tragedy, a bozo uses his 15 seconds of fame to spew vitriol because he’s petulantly unhappy with the views of a majority of Arizonans.

He will guarantee goo-goo plaudits from Krugman, Dionne, & Co., but frankly he’s finished in Arizona.

This is not at all unusual. Bill Weld left the Reagan Administration full of complaints about the president who appointed him, whereupon he was welcomed home to Massachusetts, elected Governor, and made a darling of the left.

Look at the facts: while Dupnik slept, private citizens stopped the killer, saved the Representative’s life, and had the killer pinned down ready for Dupnik’s armed bureaucrats when they arrived five minutes later.

Dupnik should be hiding in shame, not flaunting his ignorant bigotry. Shut up, Sherffff, it’s Sunday and we want to pray in peace for the dead.

Posted by: chrisinwien | January 9, 2011 12:24 PM
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Smart story. I believe the shootings will resonate with the public the way the Oklahoma City Bombing did in 1995, and that this is a moment that Obama will need to step up to the way President Clinton did. One thing that is not clear is what Dubnik based his comments on – statements from the suspect? Or his own views on what passes for political discourse these days? And how did he determine the suspect is mentally ill?

Posted by: emilegeyelin | January 9, 2011 12:23 PM
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There is no doubt that anyone randomly shooting people or specifically targeting government elected representatives is dangerously delusional. He is a sick and damaged individual. Just like Major Hassan. Another crazy person seeking to become relevant by shooting people. We spent countless hours blaming Islam for Major Hassan’s actions.

One thing remains clear: The Tucson shooter did not target a celebrity or a famous sports figure. He did not target a religious leader or a member of the media. He targeted an elected representative of our government. To ignore this fact is a recipe for disaster. The people that want to dismiss the fact that a politician was targeted are refusing to deal with reality. They are, once again, ignoring facts because it may not agree with their opinion. Does extreme rhetoric motivate unstable people to stupid actions? To deny this is, well, stupid.

Posted by: NewThoughts | January 9, 2011 12:22 PM
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Smart story. I believe the shootings will resonate with the public the way the Oklahoma City Bombing did in 1995, and that this is a moment that Obama will need to step up to the way President Clinton did. One thing that is not clear is what Dubnik based his comments on – statements from the suspect? Or his own views on what passes for political discourse these days? And how did he determine the suspect is mentally ill?

Posted by: emilegeyelin | January 9, 2011 12:22 PM
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The nutters and tea-baggers will never learn from this. However, the other 90% of the country will look at this with horror and with any luck this spells the demise of the tea party “movement”.

Posted by: Observer001 | January 9, 2011 12:22 PM
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“I hope to GOD that Sara(h) Palin is reading this.” Posted by: theFieldMarshall

Sarah Palin IS GOD. Haven’t you heard?

Posted by: jjedif | January 9, 2011 12:22 PM
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I’m absolutely disgusted with the level of discourse coming from the right in this country. Before I go off, let me state that I am NOT a Democrat. I am an Independent. Furthermore, I agree with the GOP on many issues.

I really, really miss Ronald Reagan right now. Know why? Because Reagan never told anyone that those who disagreed with him were bad people. However, Palin, Beck, Coulter*, Limbaugh, and the whole slimy cabal of them have been making money out of rants that pit Americans against each other.

The Republican Party has changed dramatically in the last 20 years or so. It changed so much, that I doubt Reagan would recognize it. He was a tolerant man and he encouraged tolerance of differing viewpoints. Not the current group of clowns serving.

I think Palin needs to publicly apologize for her crosshairs posting and I think that Rush, Beck, and these other losers should hold a conference on tolerance. Sadly, both of these ideas fall into the “Yeah, right” category.

There’s too much money to be made off hatred. Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave. Shame on you, Sarah.

*I know most people have forgotten who Ann Coulter is, but she is responsible for taking this vitriol up to its current level.

Posted by: sslatten3 | January 9, 2011 12:21 PM
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The nutters and tea-baggers will never learn from this. However, the other 90% of the country will, however, look at this with horror and with any luck this spells the demise of the tea party “movement”.

Posted by: Observer001 | January 9, 2011 12:21 PM
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The attempt to draw an ethical equivalence between the language of force and the left and the language of violence on the right is absurd. There is a qualitative distinction between the two that can be summed up in the observation that people on the left don’t show up at political events wearing guns but people on the right do.

Posted by: QuickBen | January 9, 2011 12:19 PM
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Did overheated political rhetoric drive an already unbalanced individual to act out his violent fantasies?

Who knows? But I’m sure it didn’t help the situation.

Posted by: MidwaySailor76 | January 9, 2011 12:19 PM
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Sheriff Dupnik is the same Sheriff who didn’t send a single police officer to a large public gathering to protect a Congressperson and the audience. No cops until after everyone was dead, and this is a U.S. Congressperson.

No wonder he has a lot of blame to deflect. He fails, and he blames it on everyone but himself. Nice.

Posted by: Extempraneous | January 9, 2011 12:18 PM
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This democrat Sheriff calls the Tea Party “bigots” and then has the audacity to decry “vitriol”? Liberals viciously attack those they disagree with, but when they find themselves on the receiving end complain about lack of civility. What hypocrisy. After the way liberals have demonized people like Bush and Palin, they should be the last to demand civility for themselves.

Posted by: Juan__ | January 9, 2011 12:18 PM
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I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t want Sheriff Dupnik investigating anything of importance. As an officer of the law, he’s obligated to fully investigate before drawing conclusions. Sounds like he is looking for a political appointment.

Posted by: bethg1841 | January 9, 2011 12:17 PM
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I’m sorry, but I wouldn’t want Sheriff Dupnik investigating anything of importance. As an officer of the law, he’s obligated to fully investigate before drawing conclusions. Sounds like he is looking for a political appointment.

Posted by: bethg1841 | January 9, 2011 12:17 PM
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A good start would be for a national and international boycott of Arizona by all business, sports and other organizations who might be looking to hold a conference.

Of course, with this in mind, Phoenix would be wonderful place to hold the 2012 Republican National Convention to nominant Sarah Palin of the T(errorist) Party as the Republican presidential candidate.

Posted by: jjedif | January 9, 2011 12:15 PM
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Thank you Sheriff Dupnik! Thank you for telling it like it is and thank you for having the guts to say what needs to be said.

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | January 9, 2011 12:15 PM
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The sheriff is right. Anyone working in business knows the “snowballing” power of vicious talk.

Posted by: MyHouston | January 9, 2011 12:14 PM
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This democrat calls the Tea Party “bigots” and then has the audacity to decry “vitriol”? Liberals viciously attack those they disagree with, but when they find themselves on the receiving end complain about lack of civility. What hypocrisy. After the way liberals have demonized people like Bush and Palin, they should be the last to demand civility for themselves.

Posted by: Juan__ | January 9, 2011 12:13 PM
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Dupnik decried political vitriol that incites violence – he did not ascribe this vitriol to any specific political party. Why, then, are Republicans reacting so defensively to his comments? This, of course, is a rhetorical question; we all know the answer only too well.

Posted by: AJBF | January 9, 2011 12:13 PM
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did obama call about 1/2 the nation the “enemy” before the nov elections?

yes, yes he did.

Posted by: docwhocuts | January 9, 2011 12:11 PM
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Seriously? A sheriff that calls his constituents stupid and bigoted and racist and then has the UNMITIGATED GALL to say rhetoric is overheated?

I’m sure there are plenty who agree with him that things are out of hand and yet are so absolutely blind, like him, that they can’t recognize their contribution.

Posted by: bandmom22 | January 9, 2011 12:11 PM
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I hope to GOD that Sara Palin is reading this.

Posted by: theFieldMarshall | January 9, 2011 12:10 PM
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Stupid article.

Nothing in this article suggests that this sheriff’s comments resonate with anyone.

The author tries to correlate the volume of searches for this sheriff with an endorsement of his statements. This is fundamentally flawed. I for one searched “dupnik” to understand if this sheriff had a history of irresponsible and opportunistic behavior.

A more interesting article would have tried to point out the hypocrisy of condemning hate speech with more hate speech.

Posted by: EdfromTampa | January 9, 2011 12:09 PM
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obama, the great divider….

and the only person to blame is…. bush, of course.

Posted by: docwhocuts | January 9, 2011 12:08 PM
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FINALLY, a man with enough balls to sum it.

Posted by: theFieldMarshall | January 9, 2011 12:08 PM
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It’s too bad Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck and the others busy peddling extremist rhetoric to the unbalanced don’t realize how much their threatening speeches and winking denials resemble Emma Goldman’s shock, SHOCK! over the assassination of President McKinley. Calling for “direct action” and then pretending you were talking about votes instead of intimidation or violence is both dishonest and cowardly. Worse, not speaking out against provocateurs like Palin BEFORE the violence they’ve cutely encouraged comes to pass makes all who applauded the speeches partially to blame.

The left marginalized its violent crazies–the anarchists, the communists, the Weathermen, The time for the right to do the same, unless it finds the implied threats to Democrats too tantalizing to denounce.

Posted by: SageThrasher | January 9, 2011 12:06 PM
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Just thinking…maybe if he spent less time tweeting and more time enforcing the laws he reuses to enforce for political reasons..would Pima County be safer?

Posted by: charliemac1 | January 9, 2011 12:05 PM
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Just thinking…maybe if he spent less time tweeting and more time enforcing the laws he reuses to enforce for political reasons..would Pima County be safer?

Posted by: charliemac1 | January 9, 2011 12:05 PM
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The sheriff had better be careful; the Tea Party might order him murdered as well.

Posted by: jjedif | January 9, 2011 12:03 PM
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I happen to agree with the sheriff. This country has become so consumed with an I’m right, you’re wrong philosophy we can’t have a civilized conversation on anything that matters for fear of alienating constituents and the public in general. It’s the my way or the highway attitude and it has gotten us absolutely nowhere.

Posted by: vicknair | January 9, 2011 12:02 PM
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a nut using @nd amendment solutions” to the phony “crisis” of th Federal reserve concocted by beck….

Posted by: John1263 | January 9, 2011 12:01 PM
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Dupnik is a voice of sanity and reason in a state that has gone over the edge, re-elected a drunken lush as governor, and is a state whos Tea Party inspired legislature has a bill up for vote that would allow guns in schools.

Meanwhile, the increasingly bloated Sarah Palin is scrubbing the internet of her inciteful ramblings, it is interesting that she can decern which of her hateful posts to expunge, that suggests that her incitements are all quite deliberate.

Posted by: plaza04433 | January 9, 2011 12:00 PM
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